- 大多數的開發人員都在準備這個月將釋出的新版本
- 由於全網算力的大幅提升，原先預估應分叉的日子會是2017年九月二十一號可能會提早到九月十六號
- 正在討論是否要將硬分叉的區塊高度調整到某個會比較接近九月二十一號的日子
- hyc 已經將 SafeSync模式植入了
- monerod 將會預設使用”FAST”模式來同步區塊, 並在初次同步完成後自動改成”SAFE”模式繼續同步
- 這項更新將會使同步更加快速並避免資料庫的毀損
- 另外，也多了一個”salvage”功能來協助修復損毀的資料庫
- knacc 已經在著手設計RuffCT的原型
- 目前正在等Sarang與Surae來解決一些註釋問題(notation issues)
- 在這之後他們就能夠為RuffCT決定一個合理的ringsize了
- SerHack 已經準備好釋出PrestaShop 的插件了
- 未來將會釋出WHMCS，Magento，跟Shopify的插件
- vtnerd 正在改善MyMonero的使用經驗。現在資料庫的呈現有些問題
- 正在等待Dun跟Bradstreet(以Apple的名義)認證iOS版的MyMonero
- lessless 有做了一份改良版的API文件
- 目前還有兩個Monero硬體錢包的提案正在開放討論
- Rehrar 正在製作Monero Project Quarterly Review文件：
- MoneroMooo 正在處理 Luigi’s N-1/N MultiSig
- 下一次開發者會議將會在2017年的九月十七號舉行
以上翻譯來自於紀錄原文: https://monerobase.com/wiki/DevMeeting_2017-09-03
完整會議紀錄:
moneromooo> fluffypony can’t make the meeting, so I’ll be prodding people.
moneromooo> First thing is the release is soon, if you want to test the release branch, please feel free.
moneromooo> https://github.com/monero-project/monero/tree/release-v0.11.0.0
moneromooo> There are a couple patches still unmerged, but they shouldn’t impact any testing.
moneromooo> Pony will likely start building later today, or maybe tomorrow.
moneromooo> Other than that, I guess we’ll go through people to see what they’re up to.
moneromooo> Who wants to start ? hyc ?
hyc> hm, I’ve mostly been doing little patches for the release
hyc> whenever I tripped over something
moneromooo> And safe sync mode :)
hyc> new stuff worth mentioning - safesyncmode, salvage
hyc> yeah - so now monerod will automatically switch to SAFE sync mode whenever it catches up to the network
hyc> and will switch back to FAST if it falls behind * floam412 (floam412@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/floam412) has joinedcharley@2601:645:8300:66c6:e57f:88dc:631f:d8a7) has joined
hyc> so hopefully we won’t need to use the salvage flag …
hyc> I think that’s my highlights. next?
moneromooo> So… knaccc ?
hyc> (oh yeah, also cleaned up readline deadlocks etc)
moneromooo> So knaccc may not be around, but knaccc’s been doing prototyping of the Ruffing et al sig scheme. Maybe later.
moneromooo> surae: around ? * TinusMars (54c0d41e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.192.212.30) has joined
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serhack> Hey!
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serhack> is there meeting?
TinusMars> no idea
moneromooo> surae also seems away, so serhack: anything you want to say about what you’ve done recently ?
dEBRUYNE> serhack, TinusMars: yes
vtnerd> @serhack yes, on going
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serhack> okay
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serhack> moneromoo: I’m going to release prestashop plugin!!
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serhack> Second milestone is completed
hyc> congrats
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serhack> but I have to do some maintanance ;) prestashop plugin is beta
moneromooo> This and woocommerce are among the most used plugins for that kind of thing, is that right ?
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serhack> yep
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serhack> in the future, whmcs, magento, shopify
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serhack> so let’s wait for another ffs
moneromooo> Great, and congrats for your first maintenance contract too :)
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serhack> moneromoo: you can go on
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serhack> thanks!
hyc> (oh one more note, we’ve cleaned up blockchain_db code structure a bit. no more backend-specific includes in the rest of the source tree, only blockchain_db is exposed now)
moneromooo> vtnerd: you’ve been cleaning up some stuff about network addresses, etc recently, want to say anything about this or other things ? * floam412 has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
moneromooo> Or mymonero related things.
vtnerd> um, not sure what to report because I don’t think I have any hidden patches pending core
vtnerd> the focus of mymonero is improving the perf of that poor guy, the DB is getting killed on the current design
vtnerd> so hopefully finally less complaints about “where is mymonero XMR?”
hyc> is that still using mySQL?
vtnerd> yeah for the time being
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serhack> Vtnerd: Can I ask you any question about mymonero?
endogenic> That’s one, serhack!
vtnerd> fluffypony discussed using LMDB for the open sourced version so that a dependency was not added
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serhack> Why don’t you use another db for example sqlite?
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serhack> Endogenic: oh! :)
moneromooo> If it’s going to be that kind of question, maybe leave it out for later, or #mymonero :)
vtnerd> at this point Im dealing with a legacy made before I joined the project. so I do not know the actual rationale
hyc> If you *must* use SQL you can use sqlightning on LMDB https://github.com/LMDB/sqlightning
vtnerd> I’d probably move it to LMDB first however
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serhack> Oh okay sorry moneromoo
hyc> but I see no value add from using SQL itself
vtnerd> yes I have a partially written experimental hybrid mode
vtnerd> because currently the transactions on the network are pulled from mySQL too, so theres overhead in that
endogenic> No value from sql? * davimore has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) * smur (18066230@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.6.98.48) has joined * endogenic defers flamewar * charley (
moneromooo> endogenic: anything you want to add, apart from SQL discussion ? :)
endogenic> :’(
hyc> yeah give us the scoop endo
endogenic> You get an ios app, and you get an ios app…!
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serhack> Wow! Endogenic :)
endogenic> Switched back to js (desktop and android) to bring new features over * davimore (davimore@169-240-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) has joinedfloam412@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/floam412) has joined
vtnerd> the value of mysql is doing arbitrary queries easily, with the cost of building them
hyc> so both android and ios are ready to go now?
endogenic> Dun and bradstreet is having a little difficulty verifying mymonero for apple for some reason so we’re waiting on that
endogenic> Vtnerd and transactions? Or can that be done in application layer?
vtnerd> anyway serhack, ask in mymonero as opposed to this meeting
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serhack> Oh okay
vtnerd> I was going to pull the transactions directly from the monerod file
endogenic> Oh you must mean for mm specifically
vtnerd> so read it in real-time, like LMDB was designed to do
endogenic> Sorry i mean db txs
endogenic> Er
vtnerd> currently mymonero mirrors the entire tx history in a MySQL DB * charley has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
hyc> I thought we weren’t going to have the DB discussion right this moment but … there’s no value-add for that ;)
vtnerd> anyway, for monero specifically it looks like I will do anonimal suggestion of making the supercop code a separate project lib, I think moneromooo thought that was a good idea too
hyc> makes sense
moneromooo> Hmm, I didn’t follow any discussion on that PR, I was going to go there after the release is done.
ArticMine> Are we having s meeting?
moneromooo> We are.
ArticMine> ok * bearretinjapan has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
moneromooo> OK, seems we’re done here, vtnerd and endogenic, unless you have anything else ?
vtnerd> nope
vtnerd> direct all complaints to #mymonero haha
msvb-lab> Just curious, it was reported in the community meeting like a doubling of members or traffic. Has that translated to development/developer too?
hyc> I’ve noticed a few new people in this channel asking how to help devel
moneromooo> Jaquee: around ? Want to say something about the GUI and/or the light wallet changes ?
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serhack> Yep, @lessless has done a good work with api lessless.github.io * floam412 (
hyc> is the GUI frozen for release now? are those binaries in that reddit thread basically final?
lessless> thanks serhack, being my pleasure. what is the topic btw? :)
moneromooo> I think it was a week delayed (IIRC Jaquee was going to be busy).
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serhack> Your website helped a lot some devs :)
moneromooo> Alright, so Jaquee AFK too. msvb-lab, you wanted to say something about your hardware project ?
Jaquee> nothing new from me since last meeting
moneromooo> OK, thanks :)
msvb-lab> moneromooo: Yes, I want mention to any newcomers the current debate surrounding hw wallets and the FFS proposal.
msvb-lab> https://forum.getmonero.org/7/open-tasks/88160/monero-firmware-for-ledger-wallet/
msvb-lab> …is for a firmware port but:
msvb-lab> https://forum.getmonero.org/7/open-tasks/88149/dedicated-monero-hardware-wallet/ * charley (charley@2601:645:8300:66c6:b0fd:79f2:15ae:2277) has joinedferretinj@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/ferretinjapan) has joined
msvb-lab> is the main effort towards a dedicated Monero hardware wallet.
msvb-lab> This is just a brief mention, because we’ve had discussion already last week on dev, this week on community.
dEBRUYNE>
hyc> is the GUI frozen for release now? are those binaries in that reddit thread basically final?
= Jaquee said he wanted to focus on fixing bugs that were reported by people using those bins
dEBRUYNE> So basically that + bug fixes
msvb-lab> Anyone with opinions/suggestions please write a comment in the forum (FFS thread.)
moneromooo> Alright. Who wants to say something next ?
msvb-lab> moneromooo: Thanks, that’s all for props 88149 and 88160.
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rehrar> I can. I have something that needs dev input.
moneromooo> Please go ahead.
Jaquee> dEBRUYNE hyc: code freeze was done aug 23rd afaik. (one week after monero code freeze)
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rehrar> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0vhnWCa9J5QYW1yc2lRNWE2NzA/view?usp=sharing
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rehrar> This is the recent Monero Revuo that will be published soon.
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rehrar> Just want to get any last opinions on the development section. Anything else major been done that I’ve missed?
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serhack> Great work @rehrar
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serhack> Android wallet @rehrar ?
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rehrar> Also, can someone tell me if I understood the purpose of 0MQ correctly?
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rehrar> Android wallet is September. Doesn’t quite make the cut. But maybe it can be in there. Who cares, right?
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serhack> Mm. Right
lessless> serhack I would really love that work to be carried on - there are much more calls to cover. Can it become a part of official documentation? I think that way there more chance for contributions
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rehrar> Oh, I should probably add a “What to expect in the hard fork” section.
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serhack> I think yes. But I don’t know where we can post your website lessless
dEBRUYNE> lessless: You can simply make a PR to the site repository on github
moneromooo> So, mooo next. I fixed a few things, but mostly more work on multisig based on luigi’s new directions for N-1/N. Getting a bit lost in the sea of stuff to juggle, but it’s progressing.
moneromooo> Who else wants to talk a bit about dev happenings ?
lessless> dEBRUYNE hmm, yeah! I can do that :)
gingeropolous> we still set for 9/21 for the fork? And its definitely 0.11.0.0 ?
moneromooo> 9/21 ?
moneromooo> Oh. I get it.
gingeropolous> september 21st .. ?
moneromooo> It’s supposed to be around the 16th IIRC.
gingeropolous> aight, well the readme is wrong then * bearretinjapan (
gingeropolous> so the version is 0.11.0.0 ?
moneromooo> I don’t think I edited that. I did not realize it was already set in te readme :)
moneromooo> Yes.
hyc> daemon says 12.4 days away
gingeropolous> yeah, down in the magic table i try to maintain
hyc> so yeah around the 16th * moneromooo afk for a bit. If anyone else wants to say something about dev happenings, please feel free :)
msvb-lab> Sarang got hired as mathematician, congratulations.
msvb-lab> Any word from him (I’m curious) on plans this week or current dev work?
knaccc> My update on RuffCT - sarang and surae are working on resolving some notation issues between the Ruffing paper and the Bootle paper, and once they resolve a few things that aren’t 100% clear from the papers, we’ll be able to complete the prototype very quickly and will be able to share performance benchmarks so that we can all decide what kind of ring size we can use RuffCT to achieve.
msvb-lab> …but he isn’t here it seems.
Jaquee> rehrar: you might want to add a text about openmonero/mymonero backend support. PR #2109
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rehrar> Thanks Jaquee, will look into it.
hyc> hmm. might also mention rangeproof work? we had some more discussion on how to approach that this past week * monero (monero@192.30.252.40) has joinedmonero@192.30.252.40) has left
monero> [monero] Gingeropolous opened pull request #2394: Update readme with new fork info (master…patch-1) https://git.io/v5EfF * monero (
ArticMine> knaccc Any idea on the impact of RuffCT on tx size?
hyc> knaccc you had a paste of expected sizes, can you repost the link?
knaccc> ArticMine not yet, it looks extremely promising from a tx size perspective, but there is a problem with the implementation so preliminary figures are probably completely wrong
knaccc> in a week hopefully we’ll have proper figures
ArticMine> great
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erciccione> @rehar if you can, would be nice to mention the increased number of languages that monero “speaks” in the community section, we got really a lot of stuff in these last months
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rehrar> Will do eric, thanks.
hyc> hm, maybe we should keep the Sep 21 date. gives almost an extra week for people to upgrade
hyc> (hardfork date)
gingeropolous> and if they were going by the repo… its what they were expecting :/
gingeropolous> but no one reads the docs, so theres that
hyc> true
hyc> looks like we’re out of topics then
hyc> anyone else?
msvb-lab> Is Sarang here?
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erciccione> @rehrar if for eric you meant me, thank you :)
msvb-lab> Let’s hear from him, I’m dying to find out what’s he’s working on.
hyc> seems no Sarang
knaccc> Sarang has been looking at the Ruffing and Bootle papers
knaccc> that’s his immediate work, I think
msvb-lab> knaccc: Okay, cool enough. Thanks.
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rehrar> Oops. Yeah. Just realized that you’re erciccione, but that’s ok cuz you misspelled my name just a bit ago too
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erciccione> ooops just noticed . sorry :)
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rehrar> moneromooo save us!
iDunk> Yeah, it’s a bit… romanesco :)
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serhack> :)
gingeropolous> thought mooo was afk
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rehrar> Yeah, so instead of floundering about, perhaps we can confirm next meeting time and end?
hyc> well, if no one has any additional meeting items, I think we just confirm next
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rehrar> ^ this guy
hyc> Sep 17 would be right after the hardfork
hyc> unless we decide to change the block height to match sep 21.
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rehrar> I think that’s a pretty important decision to make fairly urgently, no?
iDunk> 1403616? To keep with *16 recent tradition.
hyc> certainly in the next few hours if we’re going to freeze and tag today * connorw600 has quit (Quit: shameless plug - https://viaxmr.com)
gingeropolous> well, i think i put the 9/21 there because in 2016 it was 9/21
gingeropolous> but i dunno if its better to fork on a weekend or a weekday
gingeropolous> what was 9/21/2016?
hyc> wednesday
hyc> So, saturday or following thursday this time
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rehrar> If the docs have said 21 for some time, perhaps it’s best to keep it?
iDunk> 1400000 was on target for 21 when it was set, I think.
iDunk> But then nethash shot up and the diff struggled to keep the block target time to 120 seconds.
hyc> so it sounds like Sep 21 was always the intended date
hyc> and we should fix the height * magic_circle has quit (Quit: AtomicIRC: The nuclear option.)
hyc> ok let’s confirm Sep 17 next meeting, 17:00 UTC, and call it a day. Thanks everyone